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French President Emmanuel Macron Was Not A Target, Says Israel’s Pegasus Maker NSO

French President Macron 'Was Not A Target', Says Pegasus Maker NSO

Reports had said French President Emmanuel Macron was among potential Pegasus spyware targets. (File)


An official at Israeli cybersecurity company NSO Group said Wednesday that the firm’s controversial Pegasus spyware tool was not used to target French President Emmanuel Macron.

The comments came as Reporters Without Borders (RSF) urged Israel to suspend exports of the spying technology after heads of state — including Macron — and scores of journalists and rights activists featured on a list of alleged targets selected for potential surveillance.

We can “specifically come out and say for sure that the president of France, Macron, was not a target,” Chaim Gelfand, chief compliance officer at NSO Group, told the i24 News television network.

But he also alluded to “some cases brought up that we are not so comfortable with”, noting that in such circumstances the firm “usually approaches the customer and has a whole long discussion… to try to understand what were his legitimate reasons, if any, to use the system.”

Gelfand’s comments were broadcast on the same day that RSF head Christophe Deloire called on Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett “to impose an immediate moratorium on surveillance technology exports, until a protective regulatory framework has been established”.

Deloire’s call came after a list was leaked of some 50,000 phone numbers believed to have been chosen by clients of NSO Group. The numbers purportedly included those of Macron, and 13 other heads of state.

Pegasus can hack into mobile phones without a user knowing, enabling clients to read every message, track a user’s location and tap into the phone’s camera and microphone.

Contracts with 45 countries

NSO has contracts with 45 countries, and says Israel’s defence ministry must approve its deals. The company does not identify its customers.

However, rights group Amnesty International and the Paris-based organisation Forbidden Stories that obtained the list, said NSO’s government clients include Bahrain, India, Mexico, Morocco, Rwanda and Saudi Arabia.

Reporting by media outlets including The Guardian, Le Monde and The Washington Post found that nearly 200 journalists from organisations including AFP were on the list.

“Enabling governments to install spyware that is used in practice to monitor hundreds of journalists and their sources throughout the world poses a major democratic problem,” Deloire said.

Spokespeople for Bennett and Defence Minister Benny Gantz did not respond to questions from AFP on Wednesday.

NSO, a giant of Israeli tech, is based in Herzliya north of Tel Aviv, and has 850 employees.

Its CEO Shalev Hulio, 39, denied in an interview with Israel’s 103FM radio on Tuesday that his company was engaged in mass surveillance.

He said NSO had “no connection” to the list of thousands of phone numbers.

On Wednesday, Bennett touted Israeli technological prowess at a cyber conference in Tel Aviv.

“Of every $100 invested in cyber defence across the world, $41 of those were invested in Israeli cyber defence firms,” he said.

“We as a government, we as a nation, have to defend ourselves,” Bennett added.

He suggested global interest in Israeli technology remained robust, saying “dozens of countries” signed memorandums to obtain Israeli tools that defend against cyber attacks.

A further statement on Wednesday by NSO claimed that the firm was a victim of a “vicious and slanderous campaign”, and that it would no longer respond to media questions.

“Any claim that a name in the list is necessarily related to a Pegasus target or Pegasus potential target is erroneous and false,” it said.

“NSO is a technology company. We do not operate the system, nor do we have access to the data of our customers, yet they are obligated to provide us with such information under investigations,” the company added.

On Tuesday, Gantz said Israel approves export of technology only to governments “exclusively for the purposes of preventing and investigating crime and terrorism”.

He said Israel is “studying” recent publications on the subject.

(Except for the headline, this story has not been edited by NDTV staff and is published from a syndicated feed.)

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